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pumpkinhollow ([personal profile] pumpkinhollow) wrote in [community profile] ph_logs2024-03-05 05:57 pm
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Mingle - Emergency Potluck

Pumpkin Hollow Community Bulletin
WELCOME POTLUCK

Greetings, residents! Those more observant sorts among you may have noticed a large influx of very crowded ferries. In order to welcome our new residents en masse, Town Hall is holding a potluck in Town Square. Please bring a dish if you are able and make a new friend!

All of our newest arrivals need only bring themselves. We look forward to welcoming you all into our community, and may your lanterns always be lit.

This event is open to all! In light of our new influx of prospective players following the Great Sail Migration, we've decided to offer a small public event to tide everyone over until the TDM this weekend.
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[personal profile] tehilim127_1 2024-03-11 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Zivia's smile widens, looking pleased and a touch surprised. "Oh, that's an interesting question ... is it meant in the sense of, like, societal prosperity? Or individual? Come to think, some say shalom u'vracha, which is more like 'peace and blessing', I don't know if that carries quite the same meaning ..."
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[personal profile] astrogator 2024-03-11 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
'That's a good question! I don't know that we make the distinction, linguistically.' She's thinking about it now, though, because it's the sort of analytical question that ought to matter.

'I think that blessing might not be... financial enough, in connotation. Peace and prosperity, in Sector Standard, is the greeting of the Tradelines, and it carries our core mission. We're a military and trade organisation. Peace is obvious, yes? It's our duty to maintain it. Prosperity - it is individual, that a person can do business unhindered, that contracts are upheld, that nobody stands in the way of opportunity to make a fair profit. But the more individual success there is, the more prosperous the colony as a whole, in infrastructure. Or reputation. And that matters too.'
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[personal profile] tehilim127_1 2024-03-11 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
She listens to the explanation, nodding. "That makes sense. If I were translating I might go with parnassah, in that case -- that's 'livelihood', more or less. Personal financial success and stability. Possibly parnassah tovah, that would be a good livelihood."

A pause. "I'm curious -- where are the Tradelines? It doesn't sound at all familiar to me, but I've gotten the idea that there are people here from many different worlds and times."
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[personal profile] astrogator 2024-03-13 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds just about right to Tayrey. She nods eagerly. 'So - shalom parnassah tovah? No grammatical modifications?' She says this as a speaker of four languages, knowing that only the trading ones tend to simplify over time.

Then she turns to the bigger question. 'Different universes, so far as I can tell,' she says carefully. 'I was born on a Company-owned colony world called Cardalek. There are over a hundred inhabited planets in our sector - but many have very small populations, by Earth standards. Comparable to your smaller countries? Often the founding colonists only terraform a portion of the planet. Anyway, each of them having their own space fleet just isn't economically viable. The Tradelines are an interstellar organisation. We protect all our insured colonies, and keep the lines of trade between them clear and safe for civilian starships.'
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[personal profile] tehilim127_1 2024-03-13 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
"Shalom u-pharnassah tovah," Zivia corrects, emphasizing the long u and softening the p-sound into ph. "Sorry, yes, there are grammatical modifications -- I know them well enough to translate most of the time, but unfortunately not really well enough to teach them."

And she listens to the explanation about the Tradelines with growing interest. "That's fascinating. We don't have anything like that where I come from, as far as I know, even on a smaller scale ... An independent organization? Not run by any one of the colonies, or the -- whatever central civilization they came from?"
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[personal profile] astrogator 2024-03-19 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Tayrey gives Zivia a good-natured smile, and tries again. 'Shalom u-pharnassah tovah. I like the sound of that. Don't worry, it's always difficult to explain a language you know very well.'

She's only too happy to talk more about the Tradelines. 'That's right, not run by any of the colonies, and very decentralised. There's a central finance office on one of the central worlds, but other than that? Tradeline captains are the ultimate authority shipside. There's just... a Tradeline code, and standard procedures for everyone to follow, so it's - something like a franchise? We're trusted, because of that consistency. You don't have anything remotely similar?'
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[personal profile] tehilim127_1 2024-03-20 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
"Not that I know of. We don't have any space travel to speak of, so all our trade is within and between continents on the one planet. And I think our trade and travel has generally been under the auspices of one government or another ... I'm not an expert on the subject, though, especially historically."
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[personal profile] astrogator 2024-03-20 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
She nods. 'My people gained our independence from a very overbearing and tyrannical government, long ago, so most colonial Charters limit government functions. But history isn't my field either; I mainly know Tradeline history because learning it is part of our officer training. Remembering those who came before us, yes? My homeworld is Company-owned, so it's run by shareholder vote, but other colonies have different systems. What sort of government does yours have?'

She's genuinely curious, in part because she wants to check it's not tyranny. Tayrey uses the term loosely; the Breakaway war was sparked by a government attempt to seize intellectual property, but grievances ranged from intrusive surveillance and harsh suppression of dissent to the very concept of taxation.
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[personal profile] tehilim127_1 2024-03-21 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
"Well," and her voice goes a touch rueful and sardonic, "the country I live in also gained its independence from an overbearing and tyrannical government, so goes the story, and it set itself up as a representative democracy about two hundred some years ago. And mostly it's managed to keep from being too tyrannical over most of its own citizens, ever since then. People who weren't citizens, though, or people who some other people thought shouldn't count as citizens, that's been a different story. A lot of good and valuable ideas in its founding; mixed results on living up to them."
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[personal profile] astrogator 2024-03-31 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
'I wish I could say that I didn't know exactly what you meant about people playing political games over who should get citizens' rights, but-' Tayrey shrugs. 'Those who benefit from trying to take others' freedoms are always going to look for loopholes. We've had robust enough opposition to stop them from getting anywhere, but it's always a danger.'

Then she adds, more optimistically: 'At least societies founded on resisting tyranny will recognise the intrinsic value of liberty.' Something Tayrey had believed self-evident, until she'd met people content to live in a cage because they feared what might be outside it. 'That counts for a lot.'
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[personal profile] tehilim127_1 2024-03-31 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yes, exactly. It does make a difference that the ideals are good ones, even if they've never been fully achieved."

She glances around. "Do you know, I haven't worked out yet what kind of government they have here? I wonder if they'd be willing to do some sort of ... quick and dirty civics lessons, for all of us just getting here. It all feels familiar enough that I've been vaguely assuming the laws are more or less the same as at home, and I've got no idea if that's true."
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[personal profile] astrogator 2024-04-04 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
She shakes her head. 'I'd guess it's not true at all, but then everyone I've met from other universes has had radically different ideas about politics.' Tayrey hasn't been terribly worried, because a Tradeliner follows Tradeline code no matter where she is, regardless of local law, and there's no overt evidence of tyranny or oppression in this place.

'I guess it would be good to stay informed. Ordinarily I'd suggest attending the next citizens' assembly, but that would be assuming they have one.'
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[personal profile] tehilim127_1 2024-04-05 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
"There might be one, or something like it. A lot here feels familiar, and that's making me wonder what I'm missing. Eh ..." She tips her head side to side, in a gesture that seems to stand in for a shrug. "We'll see."